Surviving R. Kelly: Lisa VanAllen Speaks Out (Episode 2) | Lifetime

Published on Jan 3, 2019
Survivor Lisa VanAllen shares her story in this clip from Episode 2. #Lifetime
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  • I watched the entire show and of all the women Lisa and Sparkle crying was fake. I didn't see any tears like with some of the others. It seemed staged. This woman (Lisa) is just as quilty as R. Kelly for having a threesome with the 14 year old.

  • All the people that allowed him to do this including his team failed this Young’s girls aswell and are just as guilty as Robert kelly is they should all be thrown the key and locked up for the rest of there life’s

  • She knew 100% that the girl she had the threesome with was underage. It was impossible not to know. This woman is a victim but she did wrong as well.

  • It's obvious that Kelly is a sick man....but what is sick to me as well is how all these girls parents didn't care about there daughters....imagine how many women would have been saved if their parents were parents

  • This is such old news “sheeple”.

  • She just want money

  • Iike you say you thought you was his girlfriend

  • Any wise women would get out of such a situation fast. I don’t wanna here all this ! You put yourself in this position ! You wanted his $ ... now you complain about it ! You could of called the police 🚔 and ran away . But nooo money is the motivation! And honestly R jelly you like little girls and boys I don’t wanna here it ...

  • This why R.Kelly wanted girls to pee in the bucket URINE LOVE SPELL VODOO In European -- especially Italian -- folk magic, as well as in hoodoo, urine is used in women's coffee and tea love spells, as a quick substitute for menstrual blood, when the intention is to tie or bind a lover. This is particularly common among girls to young or women too old to have menstrual periods, and among pregnant women and those who for any other reason don;t menstruate. Men also can put urine in a drink to tie a woman, although this is not mentioned so commonly. In hoodoo, and in polite Southern speech generally, urine is often called "chamber lye" or "water." No matter what you call it, one of the oldest root work traditions is for a male gambler to have a female lover urinate on his mojo bag or lucky hand while he is at play. If the gambler and his partner can retire to an alley to perform the act while the game is in progress, so much the better. This is called "feeding the mojo," and the use of the word "feed" is, of course an indicative link to African magico-religious thought, from whence this custom derives. (Lodestones are also "fed" in hoodoo -- with magnetic sand.) Women players rarely ask a man to urinate on their mojo hands, so, for whatever reason, it is female urine that is considered lucky in this case. Chamber lye can be a vulnerable spot in a man or woman's periphery. An enemy who gets your "water" can cause grave damage to you by stopping it up in a bottle with red pepper and Graveyard Dirt. The result will be urinary tract problems, ranging from cystitis and nephritis to prostatitis and kidney stones. The only way to take off such a condition is to find the bottle and destroy it, letting the urine run out into a fire. Conversely, chamber lye has its strengths -- a man can use his own urination to cure a case of impotence that was put on him through magic. Peeing on a knife blade and letting the pee run on the ground is one of many methods for accomplishing this. Another is to urinate into a red ants nest. Women who have had their natures hoodooed can pee into a running river as they call on the river to take off the jinx. I should also add a quick comment on the term "chamber lye" for readers who are not native English speakers: Chamber: A chamber means a room, so in the old days a bedroom was called a bed chamber. With no indoor plumbing, you went outdoors to pee in an outhouse, but the first pee of the morning, before dressing or washing up, most folks didn't want to go out, so they peed in a covered container called a chamber pot, which was carried out later. Lye: This is an old Anglo Saxon word meaning any strong alkaline liquid. Most of the time nowadays you'll hear the word lye in reference to making soap at home, where one good source of lye is potash -- literally pot ashes. You make potash or pot ash lye by concentrating water that has run through the ashes collected from the fire under your cooking pots. Since there is no one chemical formula for lye; in common parlance it can be any really strong alkaline solution. So a polite word for urine used to be "chamber lye" -- an alkaline solution obtained in the bed chamber. So... "chamber pot" plus "pot ash lye" equals "chamber pot lye" -- which is shortened to "chamber lye"!

  • Mayweather will be next, this metoo campaign will take even more big names down yet. If I was Floyd I'd be worried

  • R.kelly did nothing wrong he is a BAMF

  • I can't stand a woman who can't tell a story without crying that make me not believe you cuz I know women cry to make you feel sorry or believe there story

  • If this is true he deserves the hands!

  • So the only nonsonsensual is the sextape... why not leave r. Kelly if they already fell so uncomfortable in his side??

  • Drip Drip Drip.

  • Definitely could’ve walked away! But yes it is wrong to sleep with under age girls but 2 wrongs don’t make a right they knew exactly what they was doing!! When I was 15 I was asked to try a hallucinate drug... but I said no because I knew right from wrong and I didn’t have a gun forced to my head!!! I guess my question is why make a whole documentary on this just go to your local high school and the girls talk to older man all the time these things go on every day un noticed let’s be real

  • Innocent until proven guilty

  • Honest question for all the people calling these 14-17 yr olds "children", here: if these same "children" were talking about getting gender reassignment, what would be the tone of your comments here? Would you still maintain that they dont know any better and can't/shouldn't be allowed to make their own decisions or would your tune change?

  • Why is always taking so long for these women to speak up? Why these women fall for those sick games?

  • Nothing going one for u that y u do this interview Desperate for money

  • You say no, but those thighs are saying YES!!!

    • +Carina Kriessman , should I tell you what your pouty lips are telling me?

    • I think you need to be checked out if body parts are speaking to you

  • The title is surviving R kelly. He is being paid just for his stage name to be used. Open your eyes guys this is marketing

  • Im only here from jesy Nelson. Anyone else?

  • Y’all need to quit hatin

    • Hating? Yeah, we hate him because he has a history of going after underage girls and predatory behavior.

  • Any small or big US-tvrs want to support each other?💖✨💜

  • I dont watch these videos I mean from the picture of when y'all was together you dont look like that I mean were you hoping for his come up and now you look completely different and your making new records of old that could been reported years ago I mean it does seem to happen like especially when the people are exactly who they knew they would be

  • People you need to stop living in "Your Truth" and see "The Truth"...I hear some many people completely reinterpret what they watched after watching this. documentary.

  • Sooooo you're stupid. Now we ALL know. Thanks. Cause knowledge is power. G.I. JOOOEEEE!

  • What happened with r Kelly why do people want him in jail???

    • He has a history of going after underage girls, and has been found with child pornography but hasn't been put in jail.

  • Allll these red flags and she stayed all those years. She obviously agreed to all of this idk what shes asking for now?

  • ⛔ Life Time Break the 🎤 Trin2Hyype aka J.B Hunt Jr "The Heir" true story... Where did the money come from & where did it go⬅

  • Haven't seen this many black women fake crying in my life

  • Good enough for you you shouldn't took the check

  • But you still did it though....

  • ★ 🎀 𝐿💕𝓋𝑒𝒹 𝒾𝓉❢ 𝐸𝓍𝒸𝑒𝓁𝓁𝑒𝓃𝓉 𝓋𝒾𝒹𝑒😱❢ 🎀 ★

  • In my opinion the reason why R.kelly is not incarcerated is because there's not enough evidence

  • R.kelly has issues

  • Me and my father saw this it was so sickening

  • R.kelly is the talk of the devil. R.kelly is the devil himself. If the American government cannot put R. kelly in Jail then they are not doing their Job. R.kelly is not bigger than the law.

  • NM,so true. Thank you

  • Dirty player. Dirty Whores..takes 2 or as she says 3 to tango at the ripe age of 18. Bet she loves her 15 minutes of shame fame and herpes!

  • She had to dodge a lot of pee I guess.

  • Some Women lie about their age and cause us men to get in trouble. Men be careful!!

  • if only they hadn't taken the hush money...you either get justice or money. you don't get both. the reason he aint in jail yet is legit cus people take hush money.

  • Don't believe the hype, pay attention people for this one is an legend of real music but one whon signed an fame.....the realest Steph contract y

  • How can I watch this full six-part documentary? Anyone know?

  • I haven’t seen the whole thing yet but in this clip in a court of law there’s nothing wrong. She saw an openly placed camera and by the sounds of it consented to a threesome. Yes he manipulated her but psychological manipulation isn’t a crime.

  • Where can I watch the full thing

  • Ave come to accept that this stories are fake and someone oils the pockets, many men have had their careers ended just like that by some crazy story and its usually some of the best people around, if this isn't same script as MJ's then i dont know OJ too now its kelly soon they will pull the rug from under jayz's,kanye,RickRoss,lilwayne could be anybody all a while using gender violence as a weapon. THIS ARE ALL BUT PAID ACTORS. DONT CONDONE IT IT COULD BE YOU ON THE 6 O'CLOCK

  • how come she didn't speak out before

  • I don't see any problems here except for the fact that Lisa got fat and probably no longer sexually attractive. This is why the sugar industry needs to be outlawed.

  • you made a fortune living with him tho.... so yeah... you were "part of the problem"

  • I have a question🙋‍♀️ Now, what if things would’ve turned out with R. Kelly being her husband, and she was the only one. Would she be mad at him? Would she even be talking or crying?

  • You was a groupie n yo momma ddn know

  • I dont believe a word you say

  • Why are women such drones jesus. Stand up for yourselves

  • Fat lair

  • Yuk

  • What about Birdman Puffy Jay z them nights pedos too

  • Now all you R kelly exes survived him

  • So MANY comments. Where were the PARENTS? What ACTIONS did the PARENTS take to hold Kelly responsible. THOSE kids parents are on the same level as Kelly. MONEY talked, allowing BULLSH*T to walk.

  • She just got played and R.Kelly dump her. These girl where legally age.

  • ?? I don't understand the issues? She could leave at any point right?

  • Drip drip drip

  • I do gotta say though that background music makes for some real great compelling tv.

  • The guy thought he cud fly for God's sake...jus step in the name of love. Meanwhile there r very real things going on like global water crisis and starvation. Plus my phone company doesn't always give me what I paid for.

  • I see so many comments and so many truly upset people saying R Kelly should be in prison...and I agree..he should be ...along with Lisa...his entire camp who knew what was going on..and the parents of this 13 year old child who was raped by Kelly and Lisa...unfortunely he was the only one brought to trial and was acquitted because the girls parents said it was not her..even though her auntie and others clearly identified her. Now after all these years not one of these young women or his ex wife ever pressed criminal charges...so what is he going to jail for?

  • it's about time

  • Well, at least he’s not a cuck.

  • wtf was her mom at

  • She really suspect

  • Sad part is everyone played a roll in his evil plans, his staff and the accusers parents.. Seems like as long as that check was cut no one cared... And now that the emotional weight is taking a toll everyone wants justice... He should have been stopped.. Period.

  • kelly would not have been able o do this had their parents no given permission PERIOD

  • *What Lifetime & Lisa Van Allen didn't tell you. From the court room...She received immunity from the state's attorney and U.S. attorney for any crimes she might have committed aka child molestation & extortion*

  • Why do people say 17 is a little girl but a year later they’re a grown women lolol. I’m no pedo that’s just funny lmao

  • R kelly all the way ama right guys

  • THYFOUNDINGFATHER Gsc ssc worldsmasterof spirits spiritseekerscananda tm * And this is what happens when you live a sinful life,,,

  • Sounds very consensual.

  • Pray For R. Kelly: God we ask You in Jesus’ name that You will touch R. (Robert) Kelly and save, heal, deliver, and set him free. God he needs help. He needs You. God do the inner-healing in his life that is needed. Show him, himself and show him the areas You God want to work on in his life. Show him where he is wrong. Let him not harden his heart, but be open for the inner-healing, deliverance, and the great things You want to do for him and in his life. Let R. Kelly partner with You (his Savior and Lord) and work on these areas. Bless him to become all You created him to be and nothing less. God use R. Kelly for Your glory and good pleasure. God all that we have asked of You in this prayer, please do the same for everyone who prays this prayer over R. Kelly’s life and every Christian that I know. But God most importantly, save, heal deliver, and set free eachand every man, woman, and child (including his children) he has hurt in any way, shape or form. God we all need more of You. Bless each of us with more of You. Help us all Lord Jesus. Thank You. Amen, so be it, and it is so.

  • So tell us about the shopping days, your birthdays, mmmmmm i dont stand with R but there got to be good times

  • Thats not what a “Runner” means but IGHT

  • I want to know is Lisa Van Allen going to be charged as well because she's admitting she participated ijs!!!

  • Selling my mask two for one.

  • President Trump was doing the same thing has done the same thing whatever you may call it it's wrong that R Kelly is doing it but I do not like that you guys elected a guy who did the same thing you guys not black balling everything he's doing and I just upfront do not believe some of these women as a victim myself I will never turn my back on someone who is speaking out but some of these allegations are just crazy not speaking on her documentary or this particular film

  • She’s pretty

  • That lady knew he liked young girls so she introduced him to her 14 year old niece, I feel sorry for the girl but the lady clearly pimped her out...she should go jail too

  • Parents are the ones to blame for what happened to this kids, they let this guy do whatever for money or what

  • Why hasn't Chris from Dateline go after this guy?

  • You girls just love stars lol

  • I don’t understand what she exactly survived? That he lied to her about a threesome and told her to call him daddy? 🤦🏽‍♀️

  • Wow!!! The only reason I feel he should pay for what he did n is doing is because it's not ok to lie n use someone to satisfy your desires and then drop them like hot potato.... Every man that does this weather with one or multiple women should be held responsible for their actions.... Women lives are completely destroyed when things like these are done to them.... Some women are never able to put their lives back together again... I wish this kind of action should become a federal offence with a long jail time attached to it... This goes for both men n women...

  • This issue with R.Kelly has opened many social ills other than child manipulation and molestation. If has sparked conversation over Parental guidance, increased roles of fatherly guidance, the negative effects of Gynocentrism- many fathers were forced out of home throughout the female empowerment movement. Also has touched on the fact that children are overwhelmingly being exposed to adult centered activity and content from the highest levels to lowest levels of our society. Has touched on personal accountability of women to learn to say "No" to indecent behaviors of men even if the man is attractive, wealthy and/ or rich. Hopefully these beautiful women will find value in a regular God fearing man- as long as he can keep a home and car for transportation- she can buy the food....lol😆 Stop going out with drug dealers, ball players and entertainers. A regular will value you more and everyone values a person who values themselves.

  • I'm a gigolo banging lots of ho, now they lawyer up cuz they want that dough......

  • i just rolled my eyes at lisa shes jealous

  • 😂😂😂, i can't!!

  • I find it funny how people are just now (rightfully) getting mad about R.Kelly but will turn the volume up any time a Chris Brown song comes on.

  • Sick person 😷

  • How come nobody questions a man when he says a priest raped him after he was silent for 32 years? But women are questioned and judged when coming out about a celebrity?

  • R. Kelly...an abusive ni g g er. Suprise suprise.

  • like the should stop acting like he forced them the where madly in love and blind and stupid