Is this a computer?

Published on Apr 11, 2018
What's a computer? With that simple line in a commercial, Apple infuriated everybody. In the premiere episode of Processor, Dieter Bohn asks why it sparked so many feelings. And also tries to answer the question. Subscribe: goo.gl/G5RXGs
Processor is a weekly US-tv show that takes a deeper look at how consumer technology is changing and how we should think about our gadgets as people, not just as users.
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  • Surface Pro vs iPad Pro vs MacBook Pro vs Pixelbook: which computer would you choose to be your only computer for the next couple of years? - Dieter

    • +Dill that is the winner

    • uh, maybe the surface but that's just for mobile stuff. i'm more of a use my phone for a few things and my desktop is the center of information. maaybe i'll see a tablet like laptop that has all the abilities i need from it. (like a helluva lot of power)

    • The Verge 12.9” iPad Pro + keyboard (not Smart Keyboard) = perfect laptop for me

  • I've take a different route than that which I had grown accustomed. I ditched social media, don't game like I used to, and am far more serious. I don't miss too many mobile apps as most of the ones I used were tied to some social media platform. I want Google Assistant on my Dell Win10 2in1. That is really it. I don't care for just about any mobile app I've tried, Facebook to Snapchat, they all seem childish to me (no offense to anyone who enjoys them.) So my point is from the ones you showcased I'd take the Surface and I'd miss Google Assistant. I bought a Pixel 2XL for the assistant and my car runs Android Auto. So I have what I need. When I sit down to work, it's just Windows and a good keyboard. Call me old, I've heard it before. Besides my real computer has a I5 and a 1070 Ti and can run Crysis.

  • touch bar is really a stupid useless idea.

  • Wasn't this out of date already as Chromebook runs mobile apps like the iPad does? Agree that Android tablets are dying with ChromeOS doing Android.

  • Dont blow it up

  • Q: When is a computer not a computer? A: When it's an Apple.

  • Surface Pro all day long no questions asked.

  • Use bluestacks on windows then

  • Future: Ipad laptops Now with a camera and a flashlight!

  • I use a Surface Pro 4, I love it, but the problem is that it doesn't work with only touch so nice...

  • That’s a laptop not computer

  • I need my computer to run windows. I cant consider it a computer without that software. Its what am used too. I have the surface pro 6 as my second computer and thats as close to a tablet i ever want to get with my computer experience

  • I would say Surface Pro if I thought it would last for two years. Unfortunately to get everything done I still need to have a Windows machine. Since I wouldn't have a machine after the first year due to the battery failing, and Windows getting corrupted due to updates, I'd have to choose the Macbook Pro. After that the Pixelbook and lastly the iPad Pro, even though it's the most fun to use.

  • It's not a computer unless you can develop software on it. That's a simple "turing test", are the apps on the device capable of being used to develop themselves?

  • Also, the MTA's buses don't have bicycle racks.

  • One thing that seems to have been overlooked is the enterprise market. Take Toronto Dominion bank for example. They run in multiple countries with complex requirements for compliance and most other elements of their businesses (insurance, banking, investment, wealth management, real estate etc) They use at least 1200 uniquely created in house apps that they develop maintain and distribute a month their business units and external partners. These devices and changing to mobile operating systems simply will not meet the complex requirements that the custom apps often entail. I know of an app that has relied on a bug in Windows for 20 years. It was so bad that when Microsoft fixed the bug 60,000 workstations were affected and Microsoft had to create a special version of that module for distribution with in that business unit just so the program (not an app) could run properly. Until these issue can be addressed desktops, and laptops are not going anywhere nor is windows being replaced by a mobile OS. It takes years to validate a new operating system at a bank. Windows 8.1 is just finishing validation at some large enterprise operations. Windows 10 won't be ready for another 5 years at really large financial operations like chase Manhatten bank with over 500,000 devices running windows.

  • The MacBook Pro, but I will miss on the portability 😓

  • The ipad cant have three pieces of software open at the same time what is a computer???? I currently have 3 windows on my ipad now. 2 split screen and one floating. Come on what is a computer Dieter. Edit: F u youtube let me picture-in-picture your app what is a computer.

  • Pixel book

  • You know what the iPad Pro needs? MacOS. done, you have the future-gen computer. People keep getting "apps" wrong. You don't want tablet apps on your computer, you want full-power software.

  • Haha... U thought like what i think..

  • I would take a xps 13 2 in 1 I need a laptop but it's nice that it also works as a tablet

  • I need tablet with linux os

  • This is a computer🖥⌨️ sorry I can’t find a windows only a iMac

  • I'll always pick Surface Pro. Because for me what's an iPad / Pixelbook / MacBook? 😏

  • I've always loved Windows and I used to have a Surface Pro, currently I have a Surface Laptop but of those options I would choose the Surface Pro. I think it is wonderfully designed, runs great, has pretty good battery life, and is very reliable. If I had to say what I would miss out on, I guess I would say the UI design of Apple's devices. 🤷‍♂️

  • Tablets ARE computers. So are calculators. Computer doesn't just mean desktop or laptop.

  • Verge, did you just make a video making an excuse on Apple's ad? Why?

  • MacBook Pro everyday of the week.

  • Apps are what makes a computer useful. iOS has the most apps, despite it being a crippled OS.

  • I don’t know. I tend to take my 13 inch MacBook Pro and my iPad Pro with me everywhere. You don’t have to limit yourself to one device.

  • Definitely would go with the Surface Pro. Reason being Windows is the most computer like OS that isn't a Mac among the 3.

  • A computer runs crysis

  • Also the iPad Pro CAN run 3 apps on screen at once.

  • 1:29 XDXDXDXDXDXD

  • I'm always try to keep my MacBook screen clean, don't see the reason in a laptop with touchscreen. Will wait for a kid with question of "What is the computer?"

  • Ive been using the iPad for a while now and man i do need my laptop along with it to run many things

  • why cant we consumers make our own?

  • Why does the iPad still use a mobile browser though???

  • I just want a Chromebook that's like the surface and can play the Android version of fortnite

    • +The Metropolis I know they exist just they can't play fortnite and it's not really a big deal since I don't really play it but a gaming Chromebook would be cool

    • The HP Chromebook X2?

  • Watching on my iPad Pro 10.5...

  • It does everything I want

  • It would be iPad Pro

  • I've had a Chromebook Pixel 2 - now I use a MacBook Pro. I used to have an iPad and grew up with a Windows laptop. MacBooks are a lot better than I ever gave them credit for. Chromebooks are super underrated though, especially with the amount of Google drive storage you get

  • I just want a Pixelbook that dual boots windows

    • How about a HP Spectre X360 that dual boots Linux?

  • I totally agree, its FRUSTRATING,. Just that, this companies invest millions and millions in their products and they haven't figured out yet Don't care if its Google, Apple, Microsoft or whatever other big brand out there, there is something always missing in their tech

  • MacBook and i think i would miss out on the touch screen

  • iPad Pro because I have one hahaha 😁😁😁💩

  • Surface

  • As an engineering student I prefer a windows laptop or pc as it supports the software I use. For phones samsung and for tablets it's the ipad.

  • That was such a perfectly planned and executed video.

  • Definitely iPad

  • Chromebook looks like a perfect deal. What's wrong with him, that makes it not a perfect device for everyday use?

  • Anything that can compute is a computer. Thus meaningI am, the iPad Pro is, and the 35 year old calculator on your grandma’s desk are all computers. Fight me!

  • PRO

  • 1:00 giant feet Dieter

  • Macbook Pro. Just because I can be more productive with it. I can code with it!😁 But I will definitely miss out gaming (mobile) that only iPad Pro can provide.

  • Technically, the ipad does have 3 app support.

  • google pixelbook

  • I got the pixelbook and I got it because I am in the Google ecosystem and grew up with chromebooks. I have a Pixel phone, a TV with Chromecast built in and Google assistant support, an wear os watch, andvbeen using Google apps for years. I am in college and the thing that suck with the pixelbook is that it is difficult to connect a printer wired and that's it.

  • SAME I LOVE INDIVIDUAL WINDOWS TO MOVE AROUND

  • Love this kind of philosophical approach to technology. Keep up the good work, Dieter.

  • the surface pro

  • it may be the surface pro . because you have a LAPTOP & TABLET on one device. and you just install the Google Chrome with his author apps from Google on the surface pro. but you still miss the design of the ipad because it's more portable than the surface pro.

  • it may be the surface pro . because you have a LAPTOP & TABLET on one device. and you just install the Google Chrome with his author apps from Google on the surface pro. but you still miss the design of the ipad because it's more portable than the surface pro. So the best pic ( an ipad pro have windows 10 pro and with Google apps installed.

  • it may be the surface pro . because you have a LAPTOP & TABLET on one device. well for chrome book you can just install the Google Chrome with his author apps from Google on the surface pro. but you still miss the design of the ipad because it's more portable than the surface pro. So the best pic ( an ipad pro have windows 10 pro and with Google apps installed.

  • it may be the surface pro . because you have a LAPTOP & TABLET on one device. well for chrome book you can just install the Google Chrome with his author apps from Google on the surface pro. but you still miss the design of the ipad because it's more portable than the surface pro. So the best pic ( an ipad pro have windows 10 pro and with Google apps installed.

  • Laptop computer

  • For me, the only downside of am iPad is that you can't format it and stuff like that. I get that it tries to be easy and friendly, but we should have the chance to choose. Plus, sometimes you NEED iTunes to restore and stuff. Other than that, the iOS interface is enough for most types of work.

  • Surface Pro - it’s versatile and works as a tablet, everything I need to do I can do on Windows (work apps such as Microsoft Office, social media browsing or watching The Verge on US-tv, and maybe even a little bit of light gaming), I can use the Surface Pen for annotating diagrams or presentations ... Though sometimes I do prefer navigating around Mac OS, but overall I can always rely on Windows and the Surface for anything I need, and whatever the situation.

  • I gave up my MacBook Pro for my iPad a year ago and I code, edit vid, and play mmo’s all day. Computers to my friend and I are old and unnecessary but I’m only 22 so maybe it’s just my age group that thinks that’s way.

  • what i wonder is if any of those computers can run good computer programs like ark survival...

  • Ipad pro because it is protable and i can use word on the ipad and if i do not have internet i can still work on internet bass stuff because i have a data ipad. The only thing i might miss with using a regular laptop is if i needed to use adobe photoshop or in design

  • iPad pro body and surface touch cover running windows 10.

  • The only one for next few years? Of course surface 😅

  • So Pro 😂 0:30

  • Obviously the Surface. I just need Windows. I guess the Mac could work, but nothing else

  • *_computer_*

  • Whats an iDumb?

  • I would pick the macbook pro

  • I'd definitely pick the Macbook Pro. Yes, I'd be missing out on Tablet features, but I really don't have a need for them. I love how my Mac works already.

  • Samsung Galaxy notebook 9 pro

  • why not just make a ios/android/windows mode all in one ipad?

  • What are your thought on things like Samsung DeX? Take your phone with you, hook it up to a display and you have a window based Desktop that run off of your phone, It is still not there yet, but is it fly or die? Think of carrying your phone with you, then insert is into a laptop like formfactor and it is a laptop. Now connect it to your desktop work station and you have a desktop. I was curious to see what your thoughts are about that giving the processors in the phones keep getting powerful every year.

  • iPad pro

  • I would pick the surface although I would miss the IOS apps of the iPad.

  • The only one I wouldn't pick as my computer for sure is iPad. Not because of commercial. I herad of it for the very first time. But because I don't need overly expensive tablet. I need computer that gives me all the options. Not just only ones that are avalible on their sotre.

  • What’s a US-tv video?

  • I need a The Verge coffee mug and sticker.

  • I would say all of them would do good in the future just see

  • Although Windows store lacks the vast variety of apps and games like on the App store and Play store, but I will still definitely go for Surface pro because in my personal opinion, Windows is the best for work and it's store is also getting better over time. So yeah Surface pro all the way!

  • iPad Pro is innovative and futuristic

  • Wow, this was just a bunch of generic observations thrown together. What about your own take on where computers are going & what their future is actually likely to be? IMO, every person needs 2 computers- one for portable, convenient, quick tasks & functions. And the other for hard core, high intensity computing or processing purposes. Most ppl thus use a full fledged laptop as well as a smartphone. Nobody needs, wants or cares for a tablet because it doesn't do anything extra tha both the above category of devices can't do.

  • I am a apple fan but I recommend surface pro

  • Get a Windows laptop and get BlueStacks boom problem solved

  • I wouldn’t like my MacBook with a touchscreen, it’s just not meant to be

  • i think the suface pro running manjaro kde. cons of macines -pixelbook terible repairbility -iPad pro can't officaly turn of secure boot -pixelbook unstandard keyboard -macbook pro unstandard keyboard no touchscreen

  • What about the surface book?

  • This was a seriously enjoyable video to watch. Thank you for putting this series together.

  • surface book best of all worlds