Is this a computer?

Published on Apr 11, 2018
What's a computer? With that simple line in a commercial, Apple infuriated everybody. In the premiere episode of Processor, Dieter Bohn asks why it sparked so many feelings. And also tries to answer the question. Subscribe: goo.gl/G5RXGs
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  • Surface Pro vs iPad Pro vs MacBook Pro vs Pixelbook: which computer would you choose to be your only computer for the next couple of years? - Dieter

    • The Verge 12.9” iPad Pro + keyboard (not Smart Keyboard) = perfect laptop for me

    • Surface Pro because it's the only one I can run Desktop software when I need to but also some tablet apps too for when I want to relax. Even if battery life isn't what it should be and Tablet Mode is terrible, oddly using the Surface Pro in Desktop mode works much better, if it looks a little odd. Both the MacBook and iPad are too restrictive. ChromeOS is too limited for me.

    • Pixel book. Definitely not the Mac or the iPad. I wouldnt mind the surface though.

    • surface pro but it's ads are horrible

    • Aaron Domanais a device that does work to save time

  • Verge, did you just make a video making an excuse on Apple's ad? Why?

  • MacBook Pro everyday of the week.

  • Apps are what makes a computer useful. iOS has the most apps, despite it being a crippled OS.

  • I don’t know. I tend to take my 13 inch MacBook Pro and my iPad Pro with me everywhere. You don’t have to limit yourself to one device.

  • Definitely would go with the Surface Pro. Reason being Windows is the most computer like OS that isn't a Mac among the 3.

  • A computer runs crysis

  • Also the iPad Pro CAN run 3 apps on screen at once.

  • 1:29 XDXDXDXDXDXD

  • I'm always try to keep my MacBook screen clean, don't see the reason in a laptop with touchscreen. Will wait for a kid with question of "What is the computer?"

  • Ive been using the iPad for a while now and man i do need my laptop along with it to run many things

  • why cant we consumers make our own?

  • Why does the iPad still use a mobile browser though???

  • I just want a Chromebook that's like the surface and can play the Android version of fortnite

    • +The Metropolis I know they exist just they can't play fortnite and it's not really a big deal since I don't really play it but a gaming Chromebook would be cool

    • The HP Chromebook X2?

  • Watching on my iPad Pro 10.5...

  • It does everything I want

  • It would be iPad Pro

  • I've had a Chromebook Pixel 2 - now I use a MacBook Pro. I used to have an iPad and grew up with a Windows laptop. MacBooks are a lot better than I ever gave them credit for. Chromebooks are super underrated though, especially with the amount of Google drive storage you get

  • I just want a Pixelbook that dual boots windows

    • How about a HP Spectre X360 that dual boots Linux?

  • I totally agree, its FRUSTRATING,. Just that, this companies invest millions and millions in their products and they haven't figured out yet Don't care if its Google, Apple, Microsoft or whatever other big brand out there, there is something always missing in their tech

  • MacBook and i think i would miss out on the touch screen

  • iPad Pro because I have one hahaha 😁😁😁💩

  • Surface

  • As an engineering student I prefer a windows laptop or pc as it supports the software I use. For phones samsung and for tablets it's the ipad.

  • That was such a perfectly planned and executed video.

  • Definitely iPad

  • Chromebook looks like a perfect deal. What's wrong with him, that makes it not a perfect device for everyday use?

  • Anything that can compute is a computer. Thus meaningI am, the iPad Pro is, and the 35 year old calculator on your grandma’s desk are all computers. Fight me!

  • PRO

  • 1:00 giant feet Dieter

  • Macbook Pro. Just because I can be more productive with it. I can code with it!😁 But I will definitely miss out gaming (mobile) that only iPad Pro can provide.

  • Technically, the ipad does have 3 app support.

  • google pixelbook

  • I got the pixelbook and I got it because I am in the Google ecosystem and grew up with chromebooks. I have a Pixel phone, a TV with Chromecast built in and Google assistant support, an wear os watch, andvbeen using Google apps for years. I am in college and the thing that suck with the pixelbook is that it is difficult to connect a printer wired and that's it.

  • SAME I LOVE INDIVIDUAL WINDOWS TO MOVE AROUND

  • Love this kind of philosophical approach to technology. Keep up the good work, Dieter.

  • the surface pro

  • it may be the surface pro . because you have a LAPTOP & TABLET on one device. and you just install the Google Chrome with his author apps from Google on the surface pro. but you still miss the design of the ipad because it's more portable than the surface pro.

  • it may be the surface pro . because you have a LAPTOP & TABLET on one device. and you just install the Google Chrome with his author apps from Google on the surface pro. but you still miss the design of the ipad because it's more portable than the surface pro. So the best pic ( an ipad pro have windows 10 pro and with Google apps installed.

  • it may be the surface pro . because you have a LAPTOP & TABLET on one device. well for chrome book you can just install the Google Chrome with his author apps from Google on the surface pro. but you still miss the design of the ipad because it's more portable than the surface pro. So the best pic ( an ipad pro have windows 10 pro and with Google apps installed.

  • it may be the surface pro . because you have a LAPTOP & TABLET on one device. well for chrome book you can just install the Google Chrome with his author apps from Google on the surface pro. but you still miss the design of the ipad because it's more portable than the surface pro. So the best pic ( an ipad pro have windows 10 pro and with Google apps installed.

  • Laptop computer

  • For me, the only downside of am iPad is that you can't format it and stuff like that. I get that it tries to be easy and friendly, but we should have the chance to choose. Plus, sometimes you NEED iTunes to restore and stuff. Other than that, the iOS interface is enough for most types of work.

  • Surface Pro - it’s versatile and works as a tablet, everything I need to do I can do on Windows (work apps such as Microsoft Office, social media browsing or watching The Verge on US-tv, and maybe even a little bit of light gaming), I can use the Surface Pen for annotating diagrams or presentations ... Though sometimes I do prefer navigating around Mac OS, but overall I can always rely on Windows and the Surface for anything I need, and whatever the situation.

  • I gave up my MacBook Pro for my iPad a year ago and I code, edit vid, and play mmo’s all day. Computers to my friend and I are old and unnecessary but I’m only 22 so maybe it’s just my age group that thinks that’s way.

  • what i wonder is if any of those computers can run good computer programs like ark survival...

  • Ipad pro because it is protable and i can use word on the ipad and if i do not have internet i can still work on internet bass stuff because i have a data ipad. The only thing i might miss with using a regular laptop is if i needed to use adobe photoshop or in design

  • iPad pro body and surface touch cover running windows 10.

  • The only one for next few years? Of course surface 😅

  • So Pro 😂 0:30

  • Obviously the Surface. I just need Windows. I guess the Mac could work, but nothing else

  • *_computer_*

  • Whats an iDumb?

  • I would pick the macbook pro

  • I'd definitely pick the Macbook Pro. Yes, I'd be missing out on Tablet features, but I really don't have a need for them. I love how my Mac works already.

  • Samsung Galaxy notebook 9 pro

  • why not just make a ios/android/windows mode all in one ipad?

  • What are your thought on things like Samsung DeX? Take your phone with you, hook it up to a display and you have a window based Desktop that run off of your phone, It is still not there yet, but is it fly or die? Think of carrying your phone with you, then insert is into a laptop like formfactor and it is a laptop. Now connect it to your desktop work station and you have a desktop. I was curious to see what your thoughts are about that giving the processors in the phones keep getting powerful every year.

  • iPad pro

  • I would pick the surface although I would miss the IOS apps of the iPad.

  • I think Dieter loves windows because he's a Mac user. I'm a Windows user, and whenever I get overlapping windows, I immediately snap them side-by-side. That's also a Mac feature, but more importantly it's an iPad feature. While more functionality isn't a bad thing, I think having overlapping windows is overrated. It's nice for drag-and-drop, but that could be implemented (and is for legacy apps on Windows) between snapped side-by-side windows/applications.

  • The only one I wouldn't pick as my computer for sure is iPad. Not because of commercial. I herad of it for the very first time. But because I don't need overly expensive tablet. I need computer that gives me all the options. Not just only ones that are avalible on their sotre.

  • What’s a US-tv video?

  • I need a The Verge coffee mug and sticker.

  • I would say all of them would do good in the future just see

  • Although Windows store lacks the vast variety of apps and games like on the App store and Play store, but I will still definitely go for Surface pro because in my personal opinion, Windows is the best for work and it's store is also getting better over time. So yeah Surface pro all the way!

  • iPad Pro is innovative and futuristic

  • Wow, this was just a bunch of generic observations thrown together. What about your own take on where computers are going & what their future is actually likely to be? IMO, every person needs 2 computers- one for portable, convenient, quick tasks & functions. And the other for hard core, high intensity computing or processing purposes. Most ppl thus use a full fledged laptop as well as a smartphone. Nobody needs, wants or cares for a tablet because it doesn't do anything extra tha both the above category of devices can't do.

  • I am a apple fan but I recommend surface pro

  • Get a Windows laptop and get BlueStacks boom problem solved

  • I wouldn’t like my MacBook with a touchscreen, it’s just not meant to be

  • i think the suface pro running manjaro kde. cons of macines -pixelbook terible repairbility -iPad pro can't officaly turn of secure boot -pixelbook unstandard keyboard -macbook pro unstandard keyboard no touchscreen

  • What about the surface book?

  • This was a seriously enjoyable video to watch. Thank you for putting this series together.

  • surface book best of all worlds

  • I have them all except the MacBook Pro, so I don’t have to pick 😂😂😂😂

  • VISION: quantum computing gonna make these gadgets in your table especially "what's a computer? IPad" ; look like (Nokia 9910) in 2018. Seriously, Apple and all market companies knows that they're not ready to move us to the next generation of computing.

  • 3:34 Put the Mac aside... 4:25 MacBook Pro has pride of place in front of Dieter. That didn't last long...

  • I think iPad Pro actually! I've been growing in an iPad Mini and I can do mostly anything there... almost. As long as I can use my family's 10 year old Mac occasionally to compenste the lacks of the iPads, I'm fine: USB key support, printing without airprint, and especially: being able to have two windows of the same app! That's necessary for me to translate my novel and work on it from multiple angles. So why an iPad Pro? Well, I'm going into college and I want to go paperless and yes, the iPad Pro does this the best... by far.

  • Surface pro

  • As an illustrator, I would go for the Surface Pro. I can run full Windows apps without having to get out a drawing tablet. Btw no one can argue that the iPad Pro is a computer.

  • also "it has great apps!" is kind of disingenuous when 99% of apps are websites we could be opening in any browser ever, games which are arguably worse than PC or console counterparts, or cut-down versions of full-size desktop programs

  • the problem is that with the way it comes across, it's not philosophically asking "what /is/ a computer?" but rather it's quite literally asking "what's a /computer?/" as in "i've never heard of this before" they could've tweaked the line itself or asked her to deliver it differently to make it come across in another way, but as it stands? she just seems like some teen being mystified by the first time she ever saw a floppy disk in 2018. it just makes her look like an idiot

  • iPad Pro and Surface Pro (or OEM's) will dominate.

  • MacBook Pro

  • I wish Mr. Steve Jobs was alive.

  • Pixel is soon building it's own ecosystem like mac, i feel.

  • macbook or surface book, definitely not ipad pro or chromebook

  • Definitely the pixel book mmmf

  • Can I connect my sirface pro to a monitor using the surface dock and use it as a desktop without turning on the surface pro itself? Like in macbooks?

  • Macbook redesign with detachable screen (like surface book) with new macOS that can run iOS app kinda cool...

  • I am kinda old school in that my work can only be done at the location I work at and I have PC(s) for all my work tasks (I do product testing). So "my computer" is just for me outside of work. I could do what I most enjoy listen to my music library, manage my day, consume content and social media with either a chrome device or the iPad. My iTunes library is the easiest to maintain so the iPad pro would be my choice, but I would miss the customization of a PC or Android devices.

  • i run my small business on a chromebook ( asus c302 ) , and a new ( to me ) lg v20 phone. all of your options are simply to expensive for my needs. i expect to use the chromebook till google won't update it anymore, and the v20 till i can't buy replacment batteries for it. if money was no object, i would hire someone else to use whatever they wanted to get the job done.

  • Mac

  • The PixelBook is awesome so awesome you couldn't even say anything bad about it I would say PixelBook

  • Who would say, to me Star Trek's Communicator get it right decades ago... It's smartphones (eventually this name will simply change). We all carry computers on our pockets already. The rest will be connectable screens.

  • Being able to run full desktop apps allows far more flexibility in programming and makes it easier to make more varied and groundbreaking programs. You don't end up locked into a particular set of programming languages and a set structure of how to make your program and you have a much larger set of coding libraries that you can use to develop your programs with.

  • Boy! That last line was deep

  • I’d pick the Mac book Pro .. and I kinda wished that Apple would do a MACOSX version on iPad Pro .. I’d call my first born Tim if they ever did that 😂

  • Why is this demonitized?