Gary Payton weighs in on LeBron James vs. Michael Jordan comparison | First Take | ESPN

Published on Jun 4, 2018
Gary Payton joins First Take and weighs in on the LeBron James vs. Michael Jordan comparison.
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  • Gary can beat labroo Reggie Miller can beat labroo Kobe can to even the cast of wizard of oz

  • this is one of criteria become goat ,Only four players have scored 60 or more points on more than one occasion: Wilt Chamberlain (32 times), Kobe Bryant (6 times), Michael Jordan (5 times), and Elgin Baylor (4 times). Lebron even didn't make it.

  • Lebron has had so much DAMN help!!!

  • Gary was a High iq Player and a wordclass defensive Player. Also Metall Very strong but he give teh Props to MJ. Also ja agree in 80s and 90s we hat the greatest Era of NBA. We can say that we lived the times of MJ Drexler Payton Isaiah Bird Barkley Shaq Wilkins Malone Pippen Alonzo Magic etc etc.... ! It will ne never again a Dreamteam destroying a European Team in the Finals with 50 Points. The Difference isnt so big anymore.

  • Lebron is trash. Stupid gay fool

  • Shave the goatees please. They are ugly. and you guys need all the help you can get.

  • What about when he was in miami? U cant say he didnt have help in miami. So y didnt he shut down the other team best player then?

  • GP claims his era was the best, just like everyone else! He's not a good analyst, totally biased. MJ did NOT always guard the best opposing player, and NEVER guarded 4s or 5s. LeBron guarded centers and (earlier in his career) guards too. And if they don't switch on D now, they get lit up because everyone can make threes on you. Not switching is not possible in the current 30-40% 3-pt era. In GP's era, no one made even 30% on threes!

  • Jordan > Lebron

  • Lmfao😭😭😭😭😭 running from a defensive assignment I love Steven a smith

  • 23 is the best

  • the best car in the world is probably the new bugatti divo and its stats are trully magnificent but how would your heart feel if you flew with an F-22 Raptor????

  • Mj ran away from Magic and Iverson

  • Gary payton is pure guy!

  • Tell em glove🧤🔥🔥🔥

  • if you want to be like mike forget it...if you want to be like lebron forget it...there is ONE man to be like...he is between gp and steve smith..the man with the friend...i salute you

  • All you kids need to zip it. LeBron is an amazing talent but he will never be Jordan. He isn't chasing anything because he is a total different kind of player playing in a weak era.

  • MJ all the way! I never witnessed MJ choke, get swept nor give up in the finals ever!! LJ wears #23 because he knows who the G.O.A.T. is.

  • 1:43 No one is going to talk about what's going on with that goose outside the window? Look out the window behind Gary's head, what's going on there?!?!

  • Pary Gayton.

  • JOrdAn the Best

  • I can't beat Michael Jordan he too good for me. I can't even beat Jason Terry in 11s playoffs. 😭😭😢

  • Dude in the purple hat behind Gary looks like Gary lmao

  • LeBron stopped playing D after he reached a certain age, and also had wack defenders usually

  • Always listen to the Hall Of Famer. Gary Payton is a badass


  • Any NBA player that says L.J. is even close to under M.K. ULTRA

  • Put Lebron on any of Jordans Bulls team amd its a wrap!! He's undefeated in the finals as well, LBJ has never jad a squad even close to any of those!! That's right not even the Heat were that good!!

  • I disagree everybody needs to get off I love Brian nuts he had three or four people that could’ve helped him love Kyrie and Smith so let’s get off that shit please...

  • If u end up at the Lakers (without starting your career there) you automatically don't qualify is the GOAT. The greatest of all time doesn't need to run to the Lakers to finish off his career. END OF STORY.

  • lets debate like this staight up, lebron vs jordan 1 on 1. in my opinion jordan would beat him. even with lebron being bigger. many people have said trying to guard jordan is like guarding a center because hes so strong. no way hed get pushed around and jordans defense is on another level.

  • Mj is the goat....ever

  • Pippen locked Magic when MJ was being schooled...

  • We all know that LeBron James is not Michael Jordan because they do not have the same name

  • debating mj to lecry hahaha lefloop is nothing a huge COWARD.. ALWAYS BUILDING SUPERTEAM TO WIN A RING WHAT A SHAME.. MORON

  • Lebron the GOAT 🐐

  • Ppl forget Jordan won a defensive player of the year

  • To say Jordan would have won more than three consecutive chips has he not missed Time from injury nor retired after the death of his father is pure speculation. One could just as easily argue had he not had that respite I. Between the two three-peats maybe he doesn’t get the second group. Who knows maybe he loses after 3rd 4th or 5th ring. We will never know.

  • MJ always the GOAT. No doubt about it.

  • (Playoff highs.)Who do you want on your team in the finals? M. jordan 63 L. james 51 M. jordan 56 L. james 49 M. jordan 55 L. james 49 M. jordan 55 L. james 48 M. jordan 55 L. james 47 M. jordan 54 L. james 46 M. jordan 50 L. james 46 M. jordan 49 L. james 45 M. jordan 49 L. james 45 M. jordan 48 L. james 45 M. jordan 48 L. james 45 M. jordan 47 L. james 45 M. jordan 47 L. james 45 M. jordan 46 L. james 45 M. jordan 46 M. jordan 46 M. jordan 46 M. jordan 46 M. jordan 45 M. jordan 45 M. jordan 45 M. jordan 45 M. jordan 45

  • MJ rarely guarded the best player. Pippen did that. I'm guessing they forgot how Lebron shut down D. Rose in Roses MVP season.

  • How can u jus omit the washington yrs for MJ??? Debating is stupid now

  • Lebron is the goat - you old heads and bandwagons that didnt watch jordan play need to nize it

  • Individually LeBron is a great player. BUT! His play style and strengths also lead to his demise. He's not a shooter. He's not a closer. He has to rely on shooters and closers whom more often than not he makes worse. Everybody gets better after LBJ except Wade and Bosh because of health issues. Most shooters aren't athletic enough to be good defenders but LeBron can't be bothered with defense unless it's a chase down block. So in the end, LeBron ends up being a loser. None of his championships are actually belong to him. Kyrie, Wade, Ray... I know why media always hypes him. They have to make it for the ratings. Not just their networks' ratings but NBA's ratings in general. I can name at least ten players in the NBA history who are better than LBJ let alone comparing him with the GOAT! Kobe, Shaq, Duncan, Garnett (you want to see a weak ass team, look Timberwolves squads in his prime), Legend, Magic, Kareem, Wilt, Bill, Oscar. Those are all better than LBJ.

    • I would even take Payton himself, along with John Stockton who is in my eye the epitome of play makers, over LBJ.

  • So tired of SAS and his ridiculous word choice of words he can barely pronounce and only kind of has an idea of the definition... and all his little sayings that don’t mean anything like “my whole thing is this,” or “don’t get me started on...” and then proceeds to go off on the topic, and “I don’t want to use the word (blank)...” when he just chose and uses that very word. He’s a shitty professional debater. You’d think these guys would invest in studying the art of debating since he’s much more of a debater than anything resembling a journalist now.




  • Let's see bos, toro, okc, gold st, clev, sas, new orleans, and Houston. All teams with 3 or more superstars on a team. Wtf is this guy talking about. Not too mention the warriors who have a starting 5 with all future hall of famers. Competition is way tougher now whether u old timers what to admit it or not.

  • Yes he did have help. Miami!

  • @@@ well said Gary P. Well said 😊

  • Yes you can compare of that era versus this are you dumb fucks... All they can do is compare LeBron James and Jordan in basketball. For 1 Jordan was basketball. or two he was not only the greatest basketball player ever he's also one of the greatest athletes ever, if not the greatest professional athlete ever.

  • GP the guest but he always takes over the show, true Leader

  • Yo Gary looks WAY different!!!!!

  • Is no-one going to acknowledge the guy in the back with the hat and "First Take" glasses who had the same facial expressions the ENTIRE segment 😂

  • The only reason this debate is around is because people dont understand how different this era of basketball is to the era mj played in, ask yourself do you really think not switching and taking unfavorable defense matchups will win you the game?? No thats why everyone in the league uses switches if you dont you will lose badly, its amazing to me that an x nba player doesnt understand that concept, that todays offensive and defensive setups are just more complicated then they ever used to be, i dont care what anyone says, mj in his prime on chicago would have never beaten a 70 plus win golden state team period.

  • why was that woman doing at the anchor table ?

  • Bullshit! Jordan didnt cover the best player on the other team all the time. Pippen usually covered the best Perimeter player. Jordan got to rest on defense a lot of times. Lebron covers power forwards and sometimes centers. Jordan could never cover them, to small. Max is trying to diminish a triple double in the modern era which is bullshit. Jordan scoring stats were inflated because he didn't have to rebound and pass, facilitate. MJ didnt cover a power forward or center in a physical style of play down low. Jordan had plenty of energy to Jack up shot after shot.

  • WTF didn't have the help like scottie WTF he is like a taveling team making super teams

  • “Lubrawn”

  • These guys love to forget that LeBron was teammates with D Wade (1st Ballot HOF) Chris Bosh (1st Ballot HOF) Kyrie Irving (HOFer) Kevin Love (Multiple time all star)

  • You hit it on the nail GP

  • i was actually surprised the first time i heard they compared lebron to jordan. respect to lebron he is good. but to compare to jordan, honestly i did not see any reason to compare. mismatched. i think they only compared and matched lebron to jordan so the lebron merchandise will have value. thats all i see. hahaz

  • the hand check... period

  • the jordan had pippen arguement is old. wade, kyrie, love, bosh, allen.

  • If drama queen James played in the 80s n 90s this idiots wouldn't be disrespecting MJ comparing queen James to MJ!!!! Far more better players to play against Malone Barkley Olajuwon Ewing Duncan Magic Bird Payton shaq etc etc just to name a few just look how weak the east is 3 or 4 teams below 500 make the playoffs if MJ played today in his prime he would destroy every team with average team mates!!! What makes queen James so good is his opposition playing against mediocre players game is so boring I hardly watch it!!

  • so many homeless on this video hahah

  • Lebron is better off the court were it all counts

  • You are disrespecting L.J. Stephen and G.P. wasnt no tough defensive assignment Lmao !!!!!

  • All these niggas thinking lebrons better than me, compare the stats fool. And if you think otherwise fuck my wife. I’ll see you soon!

  • Everybody has a day off work, just chillin’. 😎😆

  • Absolutely.... LeBron didn’t have a Scottie Pippen because lebron had all star teams ... and he going to have another one in LA ..... Gary isn’t going to say anything good about Jordon because he got burned by Jordan over and over again

  • R we still fucking comparing MJ and LeBron? Get a life guys!!!

    • Gary Payton telling the truth!!!

  • MJ nough said!

  • MJ mastered the midrange and post which allowed him to conserve energy for defense. 1 or 2 dribbles and shoot. Lebron still gets the ball and backs up and dribbles around like Harden. He takes 4 to 5 dribbles and takes it to the basket. Kobe followed the MJ blueprint and thats why he was able to win rings after Shaq left. Crying that Lebron doesnt have help is no excuse because its his own fault for leaving teams and putting uncertainty into his teammates. Kyrie stated he didnt like not knowing if Lebron was going to stay or go so Kyrie just left the ship before it sinks.

  • And MJ doesn't do anything?

  • LeBron is not as great as Jordan. But SAS is painting with broad strokes...I remember when LeBron took Derrick Rose as an assignment in the fourth quarter of their playoff series when Rose was an MVP. And he literally shut him down. Just stuck him and made him completely ineffective. In the fourth quarter. Playoffs. LeBron can guard anyone. Not Jordan though. Jordan was a murderer out there, and he would take whatever opportunity, over and over again, and punish defenders with L’s. Both great, but to say LeBron won’t guard he best? Dead wrong. He did it, and shut an MVP Drose down in several fourth quarters.

  • No comparison Jordan is way better and always will be class of his own labron is trying but can not even come close jordan is the best Labron koby they tried but they cannot be like mike

  • See how nobody brings up Kobe ? Soon nobody will bring up LeBron either ! Coming soon !!! Is Zion better than MJ ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • Jordan will snatch the soul out you.

  • You cant compare Jordan and Lebron becuase they're two different players with different approaches to the game. Lebron should be comapred to players like Magic and Oscar Robertson because they like to get others involved and look to make the right basketball play every possession. Jordan is more of a scorer so he should be compared to similar players like Kobe who always look to shoot the ball and are more concerned with playing 1v1 basketball

  • I grew up in the 80's and 90's real good times for basketball even the early 2000's basketball was entertaining.Really hate the way the game of basketball has changed teams depend more on the three ball players want to complain about playing to many games and sit out old school guys played everynight didn't complain put their blood sweat and tears.

  • I definitely miss old school basketball.I used to love to watch players like MJ,AI,and GP way more exciting and competitive.I used to watch basketball way more back then don't really watch it too much the players and the refs fucked up the game with all these pussy fouls they call.

  • gary payton salty he couldn't beat mj

  • I'm not basketball fan but is that comparison like messi vs Ronaldo ?

  • Love GP. You get a sermon on basketball everytime you listen to him.

  • Jordan and LeBron walked into a bar.... LeBron said to Jordon, you are a great player, let's play on the same team and win some championships... Michael said to LeBron, you are a great player as well, but I rather player against you then with you for my chips! There's no doubt that's how it would play out if both players were in their prime! This is why Michael Jordan will always be the GOAT!

  • Lebron is the goat

  • Is that the glove or dmx 😂

  • Gary Payton spoke the truth... Enough said

  • The point that stephen a smith used against lebron that he runs away from the best player an doesnt guard him is just silly. It doesnt make sense at all its just your ego. Its like a 5"5 guy tries to guard a player that is 6"10 just because he wants to prove something.

  • mj is the goat period lebron is a top ten all time but ill reassess his # when he retires but i still got kobe bein better than lebron look at every game they played against each other kobe always came out on top even when kobe shut him down guarding him in all star game

  • I’m tired of this debate Jordan did all this in 12 seasons Lebrownie has had Bosh Wade Love Allen Smith Irving Shaq Jamison Boozer Haslem 😏

  • Michael Jordan - G.O.A.T

  • Is gp short for gained pounds

  • if you are reading this your parents are going to die in 5 years(sorry i have to do this) to undo the curse repost this on 5 videos

  • I used to physically get sick when I missed a Jordan Bulls game which was rare, I don’t think we will ever see that type of player again with that type of competition, he was a freak of nature in the best way.

  • Try chasing a switch against Golden States 3 pointers.. you will cry ..

  • The Glove’s In The MF Building!

  • March 11, 1989 doug collins decided to put MJ in the point guard position against seattle. He finished that game with 15 assists, very next game MJ finished with 21/14/14 against the pacers in only 32 min of playing, he reached the triple double mark in just 21 min. MJ continued to play the PG position for the rest of the season in these 24 games he averaged 29.3PPG, 10.6APG, 8.9RPG 2.4SPG. March 24th-April 14th MJ recorded 10 triple doubles in 11 games, including 7 straight triple doubles. In the one game he didnt record a triple double he finished with 40/11/7. So imagine if Jordan chased stats instead of championships.